"Nature is a medecine" Aránzazu Plaza is a counselor and therapist specialized in learning, integration and behavior difficulties, trained in INPP to address Neuromotor Immaturity, formed in Waldorf Pedagogy, Waldorf Support Pedagogy and Waldorf Emergency and Trauma Pedagogy, formed in Pedagogy Pickler, University Specialist in Systemic Family Therapy, Social Educator, Anthropologist, trained in humanist therapies, Enneagram and Gestalt, trainer of trainers, she is currently part of the teaching team of the Waldorf Support Pedagogy training in Spain and the Madre de Día training team of the Waldorf house in Alicante, and is also a pedagogical advisor for several schools linked to the Waldorf pedagogy. This course has begun its collaboration with the Fundació Sa Llavor. Question: When did your interest in pedagogy start? Aránzazu: Since I went to school. I loved attending classes. In summer I was one of those who wanted to go back to school. Did you receive a Waldorf education? No. I studied EGB in the 70s and the curriculum was quite nice with childhood. In the sense that we did many things with our hands: we wove, we built electronic circuits, we drew, we painted and in the playground we played with dirt, sticks, stones, water, mud ... Now most of the playgrounds or parks are covered in cement. And your social vein? When did it arise? In sixth grade I moved to a religious school. There I decided that I wanted to be a missionary. Either I played to teach or I played to help someone. What were your favourite subjects? Mathematics and philosophy. I was determined to be a teacher of one of that two subjects. Then, in COU, I went to see a school counselor, who actually disoriented me. How are you going to get to teach with your qualifications? You are going to be an engineer. But I didn't want to be an engineer, I wanted to teach. You had a strong vocation... Yes, but he told me, if you study engineering you can teach math, physics, drawing ... So I got into telecommunications engineering. But then I went through the eighteen-years old crisis... And what happened? I always volunteered, and at that time I was volunteering teaching how to read and to write to gypsy men who wanted to get a driving license... I loved it. So I left engineering and began to study social work, but always with a vocation in education. How did you discover Waldorf pedagogy? One day a friend told me: you have to train in Waldorf pedagogy, because you are already a Waldorf pedagogue and you don't know it. And that is what I did. I studied Waldorf pedagogy for teachers. The classroom experience was fine but I really wanted to make accessible Waldorf pedagogy to girls and boys with difficulties. Then I did the Waldorf Support Training and there I found myself as a fish in water. And you discovered the INPP (Institute of Neuro-Physiological Psychology) ... One of my Waldorf support pedagogy teachers was